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The ultimate equine coat chart by Citron--Vert The ultimate equine coat chart by Citron--Vert
Well, almost ultimate, the Appaloosa part is not really complete because I still don't really understand it.

And of course, I didn't make every possible combination, but you can find it here :

But in this one, don't look at the appaloosa, it's all wrong, I will try to fix that this summer, if I success to understand it (any help is welcome for that)

Anyway, I hope this will help you.

More breed of horse here
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WildSpeedSpirit Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this! (I imagine it took awhile... :giggle:) I found it very helpful :)
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AywenSix Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Salut, au début je dois dire que je n'y comprenais rien du tout mais après avoir pris quelques cours sur la génétique, je dois dire que ta charte est très claire et bien présentée (j'aime aussi beaucoup ton style graphique Meow :3 )
Mais j'aimerai savoir (et c là que je profite que tu parles français ^^) si un cheval peu être à la fois bleu roan et porteur du gène dun? Et si oui, dans ce cas conserve-t-il la teinte bleutée que lui donne le roan?
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Merci beaucoup. Deja je tiens a precisé qu'il y a quelques erreurs dans cette chartre (notamment sur les agouti et les pangarés) ensuite ca fait un moment que je me suis pas panché sur le sujet, donc j'ai un peu perdu mais je vais essayer de te repondre de mon mieux.
Blue roan c'est E- aa Rn- donc il est tout fait fait possible d'avoir du dun en plus. Pour ce qui est de la teinte bleuté, ca depend des chevaux en fait, et aussi surtout probavlement du gene dun qu'il porte. Deja chez les grullo (E- aa D-) certain cheveux ont une teinte bleuté 38.media.tumblr.com/aa1f61ec5e…  la ou d'autre sont plus bruns www.grullablue.com/stallions/m…
Donc pour ce qui est des grullo roan (E- aa Rn- D-) on trouve de tout www.coyoteridgeroans.com/April… www.lynnsquarterhorses.com/LQH… 2.bp.blogspot.com/-cWgrVO4Ygb8… dun4farm.com/Images/Wyos%20Roy… www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/… (celui la est vraiment canon) www.bluebonnetstables.com/imag…
J'espere que ca repond a ta question
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AywenSix Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse ça m'en apprend encore plus sur le sujet.
Quand j'imagine un personnage équin, j'aime lui donner des couleurs génétiquement possibles, c'est pour ça que je tenais à me renseigner au préalable.;) (Wink) 
Je vais voir ce que je peux faire en me basant sur tes photos, je posais la question pour la teinte bleutée car je vise ce bleu là : image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2…
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Ce cheval est magnifique et une vrai enigme au niveau de sa robe. J'avoue que je n'arrive pas a la determiner. La base noir et le roan sont evidents mais il semble bien clair pour qu'il n'y ai que ca. En revanche il ne semble pas dun. On dirait de l'appaloosa, sauf qu'il n'a aucune traces d'appaloosa a par des "taches" peut etre un cas de lacing ? www.google.com/search?q=frosti…
Mais en fait, j'en sais rien sutout.
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AywenSix Featured By Owner Edited Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Une dernière chose, les chevaux pangaré présentent des dilutions farineuses au niveau du ventre et du museau comme certains chevaux primitifs tel que ce przewalski www.gorgesdutarn.net/IMG/jpg/m… , cela voudrait donc dire qu'un vrai cheval noir pangaré (dont je n'arrive pas à trouvé l'équivalent en anglais ^^') devrait posséder des marques à peu près identiques, comme celles des anes s1.e-monsite.com/2009/03/15/11… ou certains poney primitifs comme les poney exmoor upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… , t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:AN… et que les chevaux comme-ça upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… , www.debourrage-chevaux.fr/uplo… que l'on appelle par erreur noir pangaré sont en réalité des seal brown? (et dans ce cas quel est l'équivalent en français?)
Désolée si cela t'embête mais la génétique des couleurs me passionne beaucoup Sweating a little... 
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Alors pour les pangarés, fau pas trop se baser sur ce que j'ai fait c'est bourré d'erreur. Le pangaré n'agit pas sur le noir, seuleument sur l'alezan et le bai. Les deux photos d'exmoor pangarés sont en fait des bai (très foncé, avec très probabement du sooty, mais c'est du bai). En ce qui concerne les deux dernieres photos, ce sont des noir pangaré (comme ont les appelle en français) sont effectivement des seal brown, c'est a dire qu'il sont un gene agouti un peu different des bai (At au lieu de A).
J'espere que ca repond a tes questions et ca ne m'ennuis pas du tout, au contraire, ca me derrouille de la genetique.
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AywenSix Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ooh d'accord, je croyais que le pangaré marchait avec les 3 robes de bases 0o ça fait plus de sens comme ça :D (Big Grin) (le gène n'agit donc que sur les poils bruns et pas sur les noirs?)
Mais du coup c'est quoi la "vrai" traduction de seal brown? Je veux dire, en français on appelle noir pangaré une robe qui n'est pas pangaré, c pas logique ^^', est-ce qu'il faudrait les appeler bai quelque chose...
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Non en fait, pour ce qui est des robes il vaut mieux garder les noms anglais ca en français c'est toujours du grand n'imorte quoi. Gris souris qui n'est pas gris, Isabelle qui designe 2 à 3 robes différentes (voir plus), crème qui désigne parfois tout et n'importe quoi, noir pangaré qui n'est pas pngaré et je parle même pas du champagne... les termes français sont vraiment pas fiable quand on s'interresse à la génétique, d'ou bon nombre de confusions.
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xxElanite Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You have a few mistakes here!
Liver chestnut is NOT sooty chestnut! Liver chestnut is just a dark shade of chestnut, as the color is uniform - same shade across the body. Sooty is a gene that darkens the horse's color in some areas, the color isn't uniform with them so there will be both darker and lighter shades of the same color in the horse's coat.

Sooty chestnut: www.tawnyhorse.com/wp-content/…
Liver chestnut: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…

Same happens with bays! The dark bay is just a shade of bay, sooty bays are something different.

Seal browns are NOT caused by pangare/mealy! Seal brown is actually a bay horse with the At gene! (eg. E-/Ata or E-/AtAt ;; if the horse is E-/AtA, phenotype will be regular bay!)
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks, I know there is a lot of mistakes in this but it will take me to much time to modify this. But thanks for your comment, I hope it will help other people than come here.
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Kinola14 Featured By Owner May 29, 2014
I'm using this to help me with the colors of my horse characters. :) Thank you for making this!
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad you like it
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chelsea-the-tomboy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What a great resource!! I notice that it looks like some of these horses have green eyes. Am I seeing things? Or is that genetically possible? I know blue is rare but it exists..
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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chelsea-the-tomboy Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
cool stuff! thanks for showing me.
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TomRintjema Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I made a horse generator that uses horse genes.

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Ecanusiofiel Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2014  Student General Artist
This helps me soooo much! Thank you!
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you're welcome, I'm glad you like it
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Ecanusiofiel Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Student General Artist
^^
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celinaclraw Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Regarding the fjords, your bottom, light grey one is actually more ulsblakk :)
The right one in this picture is ulsblakk: media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736…

On the other hand, I really love this chart
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013
Love the talk on Mushrooms! 
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks
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MissDudette Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
:)
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HowlingForEternity Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is really cool! :D
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equined Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
This is incredible! May I ask if we know what causes mushroom coloring yet? :)
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank's, and last time I search about mushroom, we didn't know yet what cause it
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equined Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013
Okay, thank you very much! :)
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MCMULLENEQUINE Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
BRAVO! I HAVE BEEN BREEDING HORSES OF COLOR FOR 25 YEARS AND I HAVE STUDIED COAT COLORS EXTENSIVELY. YOU HAVE MADE A FANTASTIC CHART AND IT WOULD BE A WASTE FOR YOU TO NOT PUBLISH THIS AS A POSTER. IF IT WERE AVAILABLE, I WOULD BUY IT! I HAVE FINISHED LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CHART, BUT I THOUGHT I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT YOU MISSPELLED BUCKSKIN. LOOKS LIKE A TYPO. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME IF YOU NEED ANY FEEDBACK. I AM NOT THE TYPE TO LEAVE COMMENTS, BUT THIS CHART WOULD HAVE BEEN PRICELESS TO ME IN COLLEGE. YOU HAVE A GIFT AND I WOULD LOVE TO HELP IF I CAN. IF I SEE ANYTHING ELSE, I WILL LET YOU KNOW.
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you ^^
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ArcticMoonrise Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013
Very nice!
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks
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Cinra Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist
What the abbreviation "extrem" means? Extreme or...?
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
yes it's that
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Vlorrie Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2013  Student General Artist
This has been featured here! [link] Hope it's alright, please let me know if you feel otherwise! :aww:
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you very much for that ^^
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Vlorrie Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013  Student General Artist
You're very welcome! :aww:
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Peccantis Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013   General Artist
Seal Brown has been confirmed to be result of a separate Agouti gene receccive to wild bay and bay but dominant to black (Agouti allele a). Pangare factor is unrelated. -> [link](horse)#Genetics_of_seal_brown
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for that. I actually saw that later and add it in my flash game [link] but I didn't fix this one because that would had take me to much time.
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TheLoneDucky Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012   General Artist
So helpful in my...shall we say my growing interest in the genetics of the DNA pool for horses.
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad that can help ^^
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ksavvyx3 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is very interesting, I know very little of horse genetics bu want to learn...this should be helpful. :) Thank you!
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank's, I'm glad that can help
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ValiantShadow Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Oh, I do have one note for you, that I just caught. Although Fresians were at one time allowed to be chestnut, they are no longer allowed to have any color variations whatsoever. All the chestnut founding stallions were stricken from the books, and chestnut Fresians aren't really Fresians anymore. They fall under "Draft mix" horses, I believe. Although the genetic code is there, it's not technically a Fresian. It's classified as a different breed.
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh that sad, I know there offspring where not recognized as Friesian, but I like that they could be Chestnut Friesian, that just sad if it's not true anymore.
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ValiantShadow Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Yeah, I was really ticked when they were taken off the breeding registry. The genetic coat is there, but the chestnut foundation stallions aren't allowed to be used for breeding Fresians, since their coat isn't the right color. They've all been removed from the breed books, as well as their Chestnut offspring. I wish they hadn't done that; chestnut Fresians are like bay Lipizzaners; cool but rare.
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ValiantShadow Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Student General Artist
0.0 Thank you so much. I'd no inkling of horse genetics, and this helps because it's simple and visual.
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad that can help ^^
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Wafflepaws Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
Thank you very much for this, I found it very helpful! (Also, most norwegian- speaking people say "Hvit", and not "Kvit".)
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Citron--Vert Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank's I didn't know for the hvit but did they used it also for the horse coat or just for the color ?
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